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cia director george tenet resigns
Thursday 3 June, 2004 at 10:54AM (Nereus) :: permalink :: comments (22) :: trackbacks (2) Interesting. Just a few weeks ago former CIA director Stansfield Turner said that he would resign if he were in current Director George Tenet's place because of political pressure on the intelligence agency. "I think the biggest problem of intelligence today is political direction from the White House.." Tenet and the CIA have come under criticism for flawed prewar intelligence on Iraq's weapons programs, the existence of which was a leading argument for the Iraq war. Just announced a few minutes ago from Washington was the news that CIA director George Tenet has resigned "for personal reasons" and that his deputy will temporarily lead America's premier spy agency until a successor is found. President George Bush gave no other reason for Tenet's departure, stating; "George Tenet is the kind of public servant you like to work with ...I send my blessings to George and his family and look forward to working with him until he leaves the agency." Well that certainly will raise some eyebrows. Is he leaving because of the flawed information leading to the Iraq war, or is it because he is sick of being dictated to by politicians who have their own agenda? Maybe time will tell, but I doubt it. Some more on the story I wrote yesterday about Bridget Marks, a former Playboy model, actress, and the mother of the twin girls who were ordered to be transferred to the custody of their father last Tuesday: Bridget Marks has been ordered by the judge not to cry when she gets to talk on the phone with her daughters during conference calls supervised and monitored by a social worker who will be paid $150 an hour to listen in. "If I do, they'll terminate the call," said Marks, referring to Family Court Judge Arlene Goldberg's instructions on how she must behave during any supervised contact with her children. "If I show any emotion, a supervisor will hang up; if I do anything that a supervisor thinks will upset the children, that's it; if the girls ask if they can come home, I'm not allowed to speak about it ...I don't know where they are, if they're scared, if they're hungry, if they're lonely." No schedule for phone calls or visitation has been arranged or set by the Judge Goldberg. The Judge awarded John Aylsworth (the father) and his wife custody on the grounds that Marks alienated the girls against their natural father and made false accusations that he sexually abused them (translation imho: he won the court case because there was no physical evidence, and he's rich and able to afford good lawyers). The twins were born out of Aylsworth's extramarital affair with Marks. Yeah good one, he's obviously such an upstanding citizen; he owns a casino, he's been unfaithful to his wife and he's been accused of sexually abusing the two girls. Yup, those sure sound like good reasons to award him custody. Farking unbelievable. trackbacks (2)
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Brenda So, what have we learned, boys and girls? That even if you're the biggest scumbag on the face of the planet, you cheat on your wife, who then helps you try to talk your mistress into having an abortion and when she wants out of the affair, you can be as vindictive as you want, and with your millions, "influence" the judge and get away with anything...even state-sanctioned kidnapping!!! steve wake up , people... she falsely accused the guy of sexually abusing his daughters and she got caught in the lie! She should be in jail. but because she is pretty everyone feels bad for her Jerry McHugh Steve: I think you got it right. You said in a few words what I took several paragraphs to say. Please read my comments on the Aylsworth vs. Marks story. Nereus changed his outlook on the case a bit and acknowledged our positions. Your message appears to be in reply to the CIA Director Resigns story rather than the Aylsworth vs. Marks case. Jerry Nereus nods Steve, three court appointed experts concluded that she falsely accused the guy of sexually abusing his daughters.. you're assuming they were right in coming to that decision. It wouldn't be the first time the courts have messed up, far from it. I hope they were right though, under the circumstances. Nereus One thing I just discussed with my g/f: In clearing him of any charges in relation to the accustion of child molestation, it was a case of innocent unless proven guilty. In the case of awarding him custody, it was assumed she was guilty of falsely accusing him of child molestation. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? That's a clear contradiction imho. Give her a lie detector test maybe... Jerry McHugh Ask ANYONE that has been accused of child molestation. You are guilty until proven innocent. NOT innocent until proven guilty as it should be. If you do not prove that you are innocent, you will go to jail! The accused must spend tens of thousands of dollars to prove he is innocent. About the only option the accused has are expert witnesses. How else can you PROVE that you did NOT do something? All of the resources of a zealous to protect children Prosecuting Attorney's office are faced-off against the accused at no cost to the allegator. Doubt is almost always resolved to minimize any potential risk to children at the expense of the falsely accused presumption of innocence. If the accused is lucky enough to have the money to prove that he is innocent, and is then found innocent, the odds are that he is innocent. Nereus I agree, how the hell do you prove you didn't do something? Pretty tough in this case. The burden, as in any other criminal case, should be on the prosecution, not the defense; the defense is there to defend against the evidence supplied, heresay is not something tangible that you can refute easily (in this case) other than saying "no I didn't". If it was the other way around, people would be arbitrarily accusing other people of crap left right and center with no requirement to back up their allegations.. like they did in the Salem witch trials heh. At the same time, the chance, however remote, that Aylsworth IS guilty of molesting them is enough to make me hesitate. When it comes to kids in this sort of situation, you can't be too careful. Jerry McHugh False allegations of child molestation in custody disputes is the modern day equivalent to the Salem witch trials. The analogy is perfect. However, your last paragraph is testament to why false allegations of child molestation in custody disputes are almost always a winning formula. Saving one POTENTIALLY abused child at the expense of thousands of falsely accused men in jail and bankrupted is not the answer. Furthermore, those children are now fatherless and in the custody of their mentally deranged mothers. It has to stop. It won't stop until there are consequences to the false allegations. The New York higher courts and Judge Goldberg made the right decision. Once the mother makes her false allegations, it immediately becomes an all or nothing fight to the end. The father must either go to jail or prove that he is innocent. There is no in-between. No one is going to let an accused child molester walk the streets. Therefore what starts out as a family law custody dispute tactic is forced into a criminal trial (either actual or the equivalent within the family court). If the father is lucky enough to prove he is innocent, then who has perpetrated the heinous crime - on the father AND THE CHILD? Nereus I hear ya, and agree, there does need to be some deterrant. Without concrete evidence, lie detection is about all that can be done. Unfortunately lie detectors are not admissable in court (at least in some states) as they aren't 100% reliable, but I'd still like to see both of them take one in this case. Nereus I also think if someone takes someone else to court and they lose, they should pay ALL the costs involved for both the defendant and the court's time, that would certainly make people think twice before throwing around allegations.. but would also make it very hard for those not loaded with cash to get justice, whereas those who have a large bank balance can afford top lawyers to win the case, and it may be worth the gamble for them anyway... very hard to find a compromise. Jerry McHugh If the court orders both to take lie detector tests AND both agree with the court to take them, then the lie detector tests are admissable. This is especially true in family court where the Judge has wide deiscretion. It only becomes non-admissable when one side objects. I do not know whether lie detector tests were sought in this case. I wish that I did. And like you, I think that would help sort things out better too. I will also bet you $10 that Bridget Marks objects to taking a lie detector test and finds every reason in the world not to. erin I think that our system is based on the very same mindset that this case is based on... it is better to let one guilty man go free, than for one innocent man to go to jail. Unfortunately, our court system is more theatrics than mere law. Case in point, OJ Simpson. The gift of gab is what sets apart the law from good diversion, smoke screens and mirrors. I think that presentation of a case is half the battle... not to mention, what allows a jury to come to a decision the easiest. Jury selection within itself is a damn joke... supposedly there are "laws" that govern the process itself, but I don't see that it really works all that effectively. Not to mention, cases are BUILT on what a JURY will believe, not necessarily the facts. It seems that doubt is your best firend and your worst enemy in a court room. Jerry McHugh I agree with you Erin, that when someone screams child abuse, it is investigated, as it should be. The question is, when it is determined that the screamer has lied, then what are the consequences to the liar (perjury, a felony)? Usually none at all, maybe a smack on her hand, and a don't do it again. On the other hand if the accused is found guilty (either rightfully so or falsely) they go to jail for years and have their lives destroyed. In addition, in an effort to protect the children, actions almost always flow from a presumption of the father's guilt. The mother normally keeps the children during the entire investigation with no visitation by the father, supervised at best. This allows further brainwashing and destruction of any bond to the father. This usually takes 3 months or more. Make-up parenting time is normally not even awarded to the father if he is found innocent. The full resources of the Prosecuting Attorney's office becomes involved at no cost to the screamer, while the accused has to hire private attorneys at thousands of dollars to defend himself. The accused is usually the only one evaluated, by psychologists he is required to pay for. Even if the accused succeeds with a motion for the liar to be evaluated (rare), the accused is usually ordered to pay all of those costs too. If he wants her evaluated, then it is only fair that he pays for it, so goes the logic (after all he is the molester, guilty until proven innocent). How about for a start at least make the liar reimburse the falsely accused for all of his attorney fees and other costs. Some will say simply sue in civil court for those damages. But that costs even more attorney fees and costs. And this again puts the falsely accused in a position of proving he is innocent, at his own expense, all over again. If losing primary custody of your children and reimbursing all of the costs incurred by the falsely accused were the consequences of making false allegations of child molestation to gain an advantage in custody disputes, then maybe that would deter some of these false allegations. I also agree with Nereus that both should be ordered to take lie detector tests. However, I would add that the accuser be willing to accept the consequences just mentioned, in an up-front legally enforceable contract / court order, if she fails and he passes. I am not saying lose all custody or visitation, just that the liar would lose primary custody. It appears that lying (perjury) is an accepted fact of life today, and it no longer has any adverse consequences. Everything to gain, nothing to lose. Effective tactic. erin Jerry, I think for me it is real simple... when two people get divorced the kids are usually the last consideration. Sometimes, people mud sling to get whatever they want, and unfortunately that involves the kids. Additionally, I think it is worth adding that most of the time custody is desired simply for leverage, financial and otherwise. Either way the kids still suffer regardless of who started it... regardless of who finished it. Jerry McHugh Erin, This case aside, when one parent acts like an infant and misbehaves, and the other parent acts like an adult, shouldn't the parent that acts like an adult at least be given some extra 'brownie points' in the eyes of the court? Not the only factor, but certainly a factor nonetheless. Tracy The abuse and poison this mother has imposed on these children is wrong. This father, no matter how imperfect he is does not deserve to have his life taken away over Bridget Mark's jealousy and anger. I am grateful to Judge Goldberg for having no tolerance for this abuse. Thank goodness this father had the financial means to save his own life. So many men don't. Without money, to hire the appropriate support, there is no way to prove your innocence. Law inforcement does not investigate to find the truth (this is a fact), they believe the lying mother and the child she has convinced to lie. Darla Not much I can add here, except that we all must take a step back and stop and think about every given situation. I have become highly involved in volunteering for different organizations, where one meets a number of people that are going to court fighting to see their children.
Not all woman are good, and not all men are evil. There has to be a way of removing vindictiveness from the divorce, and custody access arrangements. If parents can arrange for equal shared parenting, the children would be so much better off. It doesn't mean specifically that the parents have to work out a 50 50 arrangement, buyt simply knowing that the children are able to see either parent whenever they want, makes things a lot less stress free. The horror these two girls are going through is heartwrenching. I think the childrens reactions could be seen as a number of different clues, or signs. The children must be frightened. But if a loving parent was thinking of the children, she could be preparing them for a journey to visit their father. Parents have to learn to keep their children protected of the stresses that arise from these high conflict wars. Childrens best interest first people. PLEASE> But more often than not, courts are only worried about the money that these cases bring in for the lawyers. Sorry for rambling. I have seen a lot in my life, and cannot, for the life of me, understand, why somebody allowed lawyers, and the courts to make money off the suffering from a breakdown between two people, especially when children are involved. This only opens up a can of worms for abuses through the courts. Which can be fatal, either directly or indirectly to the children, and or the parent(s) Last remark is that I have seen so many women be considered victims after killing their own children, when a man is slaughtered professionally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, and financially, even simply for being the father. Robin THE TRUTH BEHIND THE LIES: People, the truth behind the lies is much more simple. I have an ongoing case myself. Oddly enough, it involves my own call to CPS for HELP. They then removed my children saying I "failed to protect". Wait a minute, I CALLED THEM FOR HELP. So we move forward with the fact that I have hard evidence of my husband chatting with someone online about having sex with his daughter and sharing her. She's six. I call my COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY, who also happens to be a "friend" of the judge (can someone say conflict-of-interest) and he says, "You know, you can't go to the authorities with this"!! Does that make sense to YOU? So when I finally go to CPS three weeks later because I just can't stomach it, do you KNOW what they say to me? "For all we know, you could have cut and pasted and made it all up." The social worker goes on to say she was molested as a child and she "knows" molesters and he "isn't one of them". Am I allowed to submit ANY evidence? Nope. Am I allowed to fire my attorney and represent myself? Nope. And reeling from the injustice of it and afraid for my children and the implications of having them given to my Military husband who makes WAY more money, I begin posting my story online, along with discrepancies in the petition and the letter to the judge. Weeks later I am contacted by my irrate attorney who informs me not only was he in court all morning without me (illegal Star Chamber) but CPS was going ballistic and unless I remove the entire website, I'll be in contempt and go to jail. In August I found out by accident that the Grand Jury was investigating Human Services in my county the entire time. Earlier than that I was lied to and told that unless I signed the petition of accusations and stopped pushing for trial, the hearings would go beyond the "deadline date" of Feb 1, 2005 and I would lose my kids to forced adoption. It was a lie, but I didn't realize that of course. It get's better. I was then court-ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation by their PAID doctor...not my ex mind you...ME. I have proof (and they know I do) that the doctor ADMITTED to the report being manipulated by the social worker before submission into court records. Did the judge care? Nope. So I started really investigating...... This is the icing: Every "specialist" the Department of Human Services hires, is also on their payroll for cases. They are paid up to 10k to AGREE to whatever it is CPS want's on the report. Period. And if a doctor doesn't make the report scathing enough?, then the social workers manipulate the reports and simply have the doctor sign off. If you think that is bad, then think about how I feel. I just found out that JUDGES, who sit on the bench to decide your children's fate are paid 95% of their salary by the same STATE that they're supposed to be remaining OBJECTIVE about. In my case it means that $95,000 of the judges salary is being paid by my persecutors. To top that off, my judge was also on the stakeholders report, the commissioner in charge of CPS restructure. He was sitting next to the CPS honcho and co-chairing with my DAUGHTERS attorney. I can name at least one other attorney in our case who is on that list, my OTHER daughters attorney. Then there is the other bit of information most don't know about. Like CPS (Child Protective Services; aka: Department of Human Services ect) is paid federal money when they TAKE children. In my case alone they are recieving Child support from me, my x, two adoptive parents who legally still have responsibility for the 13 yr old we took into our home, The Title 4-E fund, The Title B Fund, Social Security AND private insurance. I can prove fraudulent billing but does it matter? nope. I can prove perjury but does it matter? nope. I can prove abuse of my children while in custody but does it matter? nope. 2 months ago, after mentioning to my attorney I'd have the judge take the Threshold Test (meaning he'd have to write a list of what was IN the BEST INTEREST of my children and prove that I wasn't following it to keep the children in custody. Otherwise, by law they are supposed to relinquish custody and give the children back) I was suddenly granted 6 hours MINIMUM UNSUPERVISED vistitation-from the7 months of ONE HOUR SUPERVISED, out of the blue, no reason. Problem was, the judge refused to court-order the change. I promise you this. The more I fight for truth, the more they retaliate with lies, perjury and manipulation. In August I pulled a legal maneuver under my corrupt lawyers nose, to remove the judge. That was when I thought he couldn't POSSIBLY ignore a FILED MOTION. Just today I recieved a letter from CPS claiming that I am now under "supervised" visitation for a maximum of 6 hours unless i respond to the letter by September 7. Problem was, it was dated September 10. I was then directed that I will begin COUPLES COUNSELING (with my pedophile ex), Non-sex offender counseling two-counties away, family therapy with my son one county away, play therapy with my girls, individual therapy for myself (they said my current therapy is "inappropriate" because I didn't ask "permission") and Parenting Classes in another county (because the Nationally recognized course I paid for and completed was also "inappropriate" for a failure to ask "permission). Retaliation is in full force. Until people collectively view this as less a problem with a collapsed marriage, and more a "system" problem, there will never be 'checks and balances' and these people will never be accountable for their crimes. I would strongly take the idea of "experts" with a grain of salt and realize that you may be one "anonymous" phone call away from living the same hell. I called for help because I once believed in the idea of CPS and the law. I am wide awake now and crying. Crying in disbelief and in helplessness, but my eyes are not smiling.me leave a comment
 
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June 4, 2004 10:03 PM [link]
Could it possible be a behind the scenes deal! Doesn't seem fair to these beautiful girls!