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job scams and the deterioration of society

      Monday 12 April, 2004 at 9:05PM (Nereus)  ::  permalink  ::  comments (17)

Pretty intense title, but I'm pissed off. I wrote a big post about a job scam I discovered that's operating on a national basis where people are getting ripped off every day by these assholes. I spent hours checking it out and I traced the apparent owner, and their address turned out to be right here in Brooklyn! I found multiple sites with writings from other people who had been ripped off by these people in the past but didn't know what to do about it (fortunately I realised what it was before getting sucked into it myself).

I was in the process of notifying Fox5 Problem Solvers who investigate this type of thing and get people busted for it (and televise it so everybody knows who the assholes are and what their business does, which no doubt allows a lot of people to file lawsuits against the scammers). Before I hit send, I called the other Weasel over to check it out. She went nuts at me and said I should not get involved or post about it or do anything about it because these people could try and sue me for slander (although they wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but the legal costs of defending myself would be huge regardless), or worse yet, it could get physical. I don't know who these people are, they could be 'connected', and they are only like 10 minutes drive away (which is a major coincidence) so I guess it's possible, but that didn't cross my mind. I saw a wrong and I wanted to right it, it's just a basic innate instinct to me.

Against my own desire to see justice, I capitulated, but I'm not happy about it. Me doing nothing about it (when I know I could) goes against everything I believe in. I'm basically betraying myself and it sucks.

I think the only reason assholes like these people exist is because others are too scared to speak up, and the more that happens, the worse this sort of crap will get and the more powerful assholes like these will become. I'm disgusted by the 'it's none of my business' attitude here in NYC, but that's just how things work here. You just mind your own business, it's somebody elses problem. If you do try and do something, chances are good it will end up costing you because of the ridiculous 'sue everyone' mindset here.

I saw a photo ages ago of a couple of gang type guys beating the shit out of some innocent civilian guy in broad daylight in the middle of Central Park just to get his wallet. There were dozens of people sitting around watching while they ate their nice little lunches while on a break from their safe little office jobs. None of them did a fucking thing. Not a one.

I guess this isn't just here though. When I was back in NZ I was sitting outside my work on a break. I worked on the main street in the central city where I lived. I looked around and saw a guy about the same age as me who had fallen out of his wheelchair while trying to tie his shoe. He was paralyzed from the waist down. He was laying on his stomache on the sidewalk struggling to pull himself along the ground towards his wheelchair. A few people looked at him and kept walking. Most studiously ignored that he was even there. I couldn't believe it. I went over and lifted him up and put him in his wheelchair and tied his shoe and made sure he was ok, but fuck was I angry at all the people who just walked past. I wanted to run after them and scream at them "what the fuck is wrong with you!". But I didn't.

No wonder there's so much strife going on on this planet. There's no honour, there's no compassion - hardly anybody gives a shit about anything but themselves, or if they do, they sure hide it well. That's just how it is? Pfft. If this is paradise, I'll take the bag.

End of rant.



comments (17)

Kiria
April 13, 2004 4:33 AM [link]

I agree that people don't often take action in such situations, but I think for the vast majority of us out of fear rather than out of lack of compassion.

Case in point: I passed a stopped car with its hazards on tonight. Not much I could do to help them other than perhaps use my cell phone, which they probably had.. but how many times had I heard stories warning me away from stopping to assist strangers lest they be violent murderers instead of helpless innocents?

/random

Nereus
April 13, 2004 3:46 PM [link]

True. I was pretty pissed when I wrote that entry so my views probably weren't as open-minded as they usually are as far as seeing both sides of the coin.

Here's an interesting true story that makes you wonder though..

My Mum got a flat tyre one day when she was driving along the desert road in New Zealand near Mt Ruapehu. There were no gas stations or homes or anything for miles and she was not sure how to change a tyre. Several cars and trucks went past without stopping to help, but then a motorcycle gang turned up - the Mongrel Mob. Now these guys make the U.S. Hells Angels look like a bunch of college kids on rice burners, I kid you not; seriously dangerous dudes that you do NOT want to mess with.

She was freaking when they all stopped around her car, then one of the guys got off his bike and came over to her and asked what the problem was. Within minutes a couple of these gang members had the tyre changed for her and were on their way with a smile. Mum could not believe it. Of course nobody stopped to see if she was ok when they saw her surrounded by a whole pack of Mob gang members. All these supposedly 'decent' people had just driven on by, yet the one group who are feared and considered by some as basically the scum of society were the only ones who stopped and helped. Good shit.

ice
April 13, 2004 3:52 PM [link]

Yeah, 'cause they were the only ones who didn't care if your mom was scammin' pretending to be an innocent to lure people into her car.

Nereus
April 13, 2004 3:55 PM [link]

lol yeah, because like, she looks so scary and stuff heh.

ice
April 13, 2004 4:14 PM [link]

No, seriously, they usually lure you in with a child, or a young beautiful girl or a middle-aged woman who needs help.

Nereus
April 13, 2004 4:23 PM [link]

Maybe here in the US. Shit my faith in humanity just keeps getting lower and lower.

Erin
April 13, 2004 4:47 PM [link]

Actually I think your and Ice's views are not uncommon at all. Ice has been in NYC for a while, which let's face it... ain't exactly a place where you "love thy neighbor". However, Nereus you have been in places where "love thy neighbor" was the mindset. It is funny, because I think in this instance I am very similar to Nereus in the thought process. I am someone that when I see something "wrong" I tend to get a bit worked up and try to figure out something to do to help make it "right"... only problem is, in this day and age, people have become more paranoid than they are concerned about someone else's safety (it also depends on where you live unfortunately).
You could really go either way with this tho'... you can always be afraid to help b/c you look at the world and see potential offenders. Or you cannot be afraid to help people and take the risk that there are people out there who will take advantage of that.
My two cents? You can make a report to the NYC FBI field office and say that you believe that there is a POTENTIAL scandal and this is what you have found. That is not slander... slander, first of all is very hard to prove, both ways. But Ice is right, if you call a TV crew and get them involved, you have someone throwing allegations at them on TV... not good. However making a conscientious report, as a concerned citizen to the appropriate authorities is not slander. You could always make an anonymous report to the FBI... don't have to leave your name. May take them a bit longer to investigate, but at that point you have done yer duty Nereus. :o)
At any rate, keep on keepin' on Nereus... don't let the city wear you down! Ice, keep lookin' out fer yer man and don't let him call the TV crews out to the mafia's hidin' place... I only know so many lawyers guys... (hehehehehehehe)

alt
April 14, 2004 7:30 PM [link]

what was the job scam you referred to all about?

it's nice to know, M, there are still people like you. careful though, your species are becoming extinct by the minute. preserve yourself well for posterity.

ice
April 14, 2004 11:13 PM [link]

People like me preserve people like him.

Nereus
April 14, 2004 11:14 PM [link]

thank you :)
I'll tell ya about it next time we meet up.

alt
April 15, 2004 10:40 AM [link]

deal.

Colleen
April 15, 2004 11:53 AM [link]

i think it was a sign youre supposed to help given the location of the scammers. you could do it anon like one of your friends said. you got me curious what the scam was. :)

Bob
April 19, 2004 11:04 AM [link]

Thanks Friend, Don't let it get to you - there are plenty of good people left in the world - stay just the way you are - I plan to keep practicing the golden rule and keep my Karma intact. Bob

Nereus
April 20, 2004 6:09 PM [link]

Cheers Bob and everyone for the comments :)
Amazing how low people can go. If ya can't beat 'em, don't play with 'em I guess, heh.

eddiemyboy
May 13, 2004 9:21 AM [link]

The bikers didn't have anything to fear because they are used to instilling fear.They had their own protection with them,so they could afford to help and old lady.You are not the only one who gets outraged at indifference or apparent indifference.There still are alot of us.We just keep getting reasons not to help,media usually.Call it a suttle(sp)brainwashing. I still do stupid things like helping some one who is having a problem or is hurting,occasionally I get burned.Oh well.I have standards to adhere to. Ed P.

Nereus
May 13, 2004 10:36 AM [link]

Stick to yer standards, as hard as it is to give reason for it sometimes.

Erin
May 19, 2004 4:12 PM [link]

Yep... I agree stick to yer guns... I mean standards. :oD


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